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millie
hi
ive just started get into photography and playing around with my camera
advise and criticism much appreciated
also hints and tips would be nice

cheers

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more pics up soon

Nickle
What camera are you using?
pImPiN_tHe_pInK
dude wat the hell are the pics spose to be of
millie
those pics were taken with a kodak digital camera nothing special
but ive just got a canon 350d

the second pic was just playing around with water shots in the sink!!!!!
53XEH
2nd one is pretty cool

keep playing around, it's the best way to learn thumbsup.gif
Fisher
QUOTE(thats_hott_11 @ Sep 19 2006, 04:25 PM) [snapback]1280266161[/snapback]

dude wat the hell are the pics spose to be of

What the hell is ur pic supposed to be of. Ur profile pic is the most over exposed P.O.S photo I have ever seen, and I mean shit for a camera phone. It's just a white silhouette with eyes and a mouth. U can't critsise anyone... U even wrote "I'm not judgemental" in ur profile! Fair enough, u were refering to kinky experimental sex with strangers though (twice in the same sentence). Not photography.


On Topic:
Sink one is ok, The 1st one is pretty average though. Crappy harsh direct sunlight with a shadow over ur face, (Always do it when it is overcast (to difuse the light). Or at sunset with a longer exposure and small amount of flash) It is not cropped enough and the color is a bit washed out.
When u do the sink ones use a fast(ish) exposure (about 1/250) small(ish) aperture f.7.1 - f.8 and use the flash to better define the water.
If u have NFI what those settings mean then consult your manual, u put them into manual mode, or Aperture/Exposure Priority mode.
Also with the sink ones use something plain, clean and stainless steel or chrome (but not something that says stainless steel!). With close ups like that u dont want something like writing or rust in the corners to 'dirty' a photo that has the potential to be so clean, sharp and modern looking.

Harry (back to my old pushy ways smile.gif , not that I ever left them!)
Philthy
QUOTE(thats_hott_11 @ Sep 19 2006, 06:25 PM) [snapback]1280266161[/snapback]

dude wat the hell are the pics spose to be of



Does photography need to be of anything in particular? You never heard of abstract art?

Millie, Everyone starts somewhere and good on you for trying different stuff out.
millie
thanx for the advice everyone
heres a couple more pics i found from a while ago
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thanx for the advice everyone


Lance
I hope she didnt dirty her dress.
BOOSTMEISTER
Hey just on the second pic in the sink....I recon it's a good pic but would be even better if you could see what it is that the water is pouring onto, move the spoon/ladel/lifter to the right a bit so you can see part of or all of it, that will make more sense....Cam
Fisher
mmmmm... not a fan. Again with the direct sunlight, harsh shadows and bad skin tones from it, weird look on her face, the blue against the blue... not good. Flower has good composition but it is out of focus and the color is washed out. Also not the best flower to use.
Also u did a triple post and U need to re-size badly.
Philthy
As Millie said, She's just started with it.
Some harsh critisism for a beginner.
millie
"weird look on her face"

thats just her!!!!!! she always has weird looks on her face!!!
Fisher
QUOTE(Philthy @ Sep 20 2006, 08:26 PM) [snapback]1280271518[/snapback]

As Millie said, She's just started with it.
Some harsh critisism for a beginner.


Being nice is shit. U dont learn. Then again it appears i'm not getting through to her so i'm giving up.
Philthy
QUOTE(vp_s_wagon @ Sep 22 2006, 12:20 AM) [snapback]1280275398[/snapback]

Being nice is shit. U dont learn. Then again it appears i'm not getting through to her so i'm giving up.



I'm not saying be nice, I'm saying go easy. Everyone starts somewhere and as Millie admits she's just started. No point bombarding her with comments like that.
Encouragment can go just as far.


By the way mate you might wanna check some of your horizons. They appear to lean to the right in a few shots.
millie


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Then again it appears i'm not getting through to her so i'm giving up.


im sorry i didnt realise it was about "getting through to me "
Fisher
QUOTE(millie @ Sep 22 2006, 05:33 PM) [snapback]1280277744[/snapback]

im sorry i didnt realise it was about "getting through to me "


I just mean that if i put in the effort u might wanna respond with some sort of acknowledgement, like, "thanks Harry, I'll try that". I post like that because that is how most good photographers like to be responded to. Not with plain compliments or encouragement. A post that just says "good work" is not going to help anyone.
Philthy
QUOTE(vp_s_wagon @ Sep 22 2006, 09:03 PM) [snapback]1280277910[/snapback]

I just mean that if i put in the effort u might wanna respond with some sort of acknowledgement, like, "thanks Harry, I'll try that". I post like that because that is how most good photographers like to be responded to. Not with plain compliments or encouragement. A post that just says "good work" is not going to help anyone.

No I disagree.
There's a difference between good constructive critisism and being plain rude and arrogant.

Mate I'm not all that fussed about your stuff but I wouldn't think about being rude to you about it. Go back and look at some of the photo's you took when you started and see if they are much beter than Millies.

Another thing. Anyone with a digital SLR, A couple of semi decent lenses and photoshop can take good photos.

How about trying it with wet film (where you can't see what you took and delete if you don't like it) and no didgital enhancement and then see what your photos are like.

That is the sign of a good photorapher IMO
Fisher
QUOTE(Philthy @ Sep 22 2006, 07:21 PM) [snapback]1280277945[/snapback]

No I disagree.
There's a difference between good constructive critisism and being plain rude and arrogant.

Mate I'm not all that fussed about your stuff but I wouldn't think about being rude to you about it. Go back and look at some of the photo's you took when you started and see if they are much beter than Millies.

Another thing. Anyone with a digital SLR, A couple of semi decent lenses and photoshop can take good photos.

How about trying it with wet film (where you can't see what you took and delete if you don't like it) and no didgital enhancement and then see what your photos are like.

That is the sign of a good photorapher IMO

OK mate, you need to get your facts straight first. (Damn I get into this shit every time!) I have not been rude. I have been honest. I did not say anything that was not constructive, my critisisms are all supported with FACTS and if you use facts it has ABOSUTLEY NOTHING TO DO WITH MY WORK! You base the credibility of what I am saying on the facts in them not how good my own shots are, they are irrelivant.
So far you hve come up with one fact and one pointless comment about mine. The fact was regarding the crooked horizon, which had already been pointed out, by other people.I acknowldged it and thanked them for the help.
Last time I checked Millie DOES HAVE A DLSR!! she said she owns a 350D, thats a DSLR. Semi-Decent lenses? would you like to clarify that? What lenses are you thinking of?
I fail to see what this has to do with wet film. But yes I have tried it and no they were not brilliant, so yes, i do take better photos with digital, try finding a person who doesn't. I still dont see how that is related to millie who actually has a more expensive DSLR than I do. Does she use wet film?

I am not going to post in this thread anymore because I am obviously of no help to you. I will post elsewhere, where critisism is wanted.

Harry
Psi
QUOTE(Philthy @ Sep 22 2006, 09:21 PM) [snapback]1280277945[/snapback]

No I disagree.
There's a difference between good constructive critisism and being plain rude and arrogant.

Mate I'm not all that fussed about your stuff but I wouldn't think about being rude to you about it. Go back and look at some of the photo's you took when you started and see if they are much beter than Millies.



Theres nothing rude and arrogant about what harry said. Most people on this site like it when they get critism about there photos, I know that i like it. Harry usually gives the best critism, as he said its alot better then just saying that they are good pics or shit pics, he expains why.

And why are you talking about harry's pics, this topic is aoubts millie's pics.

Post up your pics and show us.
Philthy


I didnt say Millie used wet film. I just said in my opinion that's the sign of a good photographer.
I was also showing you how it feels to receive critisism that sound arrogant.

I'm not saying you have to say "yes nice pics millie" but maybe take in to consideration her lack of experience at the moment and provide more constructive critisism in a more friendly manner. All I read in your post was that you shot someone down in flames who probably needs some encouregment.

Then when she didn't reply to your post you became abusive.
Fisher
QUOTE(Philthy @ Sep 22 2006, 08:27 PM) [snapback]1280278120[/snapback]

I didnt say Millie used wet film. I just said in my opinion that's the sign of a good photographer.
I was also showing you how it feels to receive critisism that sound arrogant.

I'm not saying you have to say "yes nice pics millie" but maybe take in to consideration her lack of experience at the moment and provide more constructive critisism in a more friendly manner. All I read in your post was that you shot someone down in flames who probably needs some encouregment.

Then when she didn't reply to your post you became abusive.

I enjoy getting critisms, I am not going to thank you for giving it to me under these circumstance though. you have only given it to me to try and piss me off (although i am not sure how it hurts or annoys me in any way) Had you posted that in my own forum I would have said "Thanks, i'll fix that up. Cheers" not get pissy like you seem to. My critism is VERY constructive, I wrote a FULL guide to help millie take better photos and all i got was... well fuck all. So dont worry I'm not going to help her if she is just going to ignore the effort I put in to helping her out. I add nice comments where they are due, eg. "the composition is good" etc. but I am not going to lie ok.
I am not here to rub someone's ego. I dont give a shit how arrogant you think I sound. I am here to give an objective opinion and help people improve their photography. You should check out some other sites. They tear my photos apart. I fukin love it! It is by far the best way to improve your shots.

I'm not sorry for what I said. If Millie can't take critism then she shouldnt be here.

Harry
Ghetto Panda
I think this has been a case of misreading a person . Harry is blunt and straight to the point and does'nt sugar coat, ever since i have started posting in this section Harry has done nothing but help my own photo's with constructive critism and i have taken this on board and imo my photo's have improved (still not very good though).
And imo Harry is one of the best photographers on this site and puts a hell of a lot of effort and time into his photo's. All he is trying to do is help.
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SITH 1
I like your 2nd lot of photo's a lot more then the first set.
We all start some where, and we move on and get better as we get more Exp,

ALL I CAN SAY IS go out take more and more photos, like at other ideas as in; other photo's from the net, books, sign up to a photography site and look at them.

Start simple and work from there.

Luke
Philthy
QUOTE(SITH 1 @ Sep 23 2006, 10:10 AM) [snapback]1280278574[/snapback]

I like your 2nd lot of photo's a lot more then the first set.
We all start some where, and we move on and get better as we get more Exp,

ALL I CAN SAY IS go out take more and more photos, like at other ideas as in; other photo's from the net, books, sign up to a photography site and look at them.

Start simple and work from there.

Luke



Nice one Sith,

Now that's what I call constructive critisism and advice. (especially to someone who's just started)

millie
i was fine with all the comments and advice it really helped i didnt realise i had to individually acknowledge each post
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thanx for the advice everyone

and those pics that i have posted up were taken with a cheap kodak digital piece of shit!!!!!
i have only just bought the canon and im still experimenting and playing around with the settings etc etc
and to specifically acknowledge you harry i actually commented to someone in a pm that i was disappointed that u had "given up" as i would have really valued your further advice and tips

i dont mind criticism if i did i would never had allowed public viewing of my pics
the only comment that pissed me off was the one i had already pointed out

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Then again it appears i'm not getting through to her so i'm giving up

Fisher
QUOTE(millie @ Sep 23 2006, 10:52 AM) [snapback]1280278758[/snapback]

i was fine with all the comments and advice it really helped i didnt realise i had to individually acknowledge each post

and those pics that i have posted up were taken with a cheap kodak digital piece of shit!!!!!
i have only just bought the canon and im still experimenting and playing around with the settings etc etc
and to specifically acknowledge you harry i actually commented to someone in a pm that i was disappointed that u had "given up" as i would have really valued your further advice and tips

i dont mind criticism if i did i would never had allowed public viewing of my pics
the only comment that pissed me off was the one i had already pointed out


It's just that I wrote all that help and u said like 5 words, nothing to tell me that you were going to do anything about it.

Philthy,
I think you should read this: http://www.boostcruising.com/forums/index....howtopic=158553
millie
everybody meet alice!!!!


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i dont like how busy it is around her face i would have liked more facial definition but she's not easy to position!!!! might play around with it later


c&c welcome

dark_fool
jeasus christ there just photos

looks like a good photo of alice you've got there smile.gif
Fisher
Nice work Millie,
Like u said a bit busy round the face, nice work with the shadow increase,it works well. Did u shoot in RAW? The backlighting is brilliant, bright blue with a very nice hint of gold in the corner, very well done.
Needs to be re-sized a little for the net, other than that, I can't fault you.

Dark Fool,
Jesus, they're just cars!

Harry
millie
thanx dark fool ----------- i see your a lego fan got any pics???




cheers harry no i didnt shoot in raw
how do i resize??????
thanx for replying
i appreciate it!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Psi
download a free program called irfanview, it really good for resizing and it got heaps of other stuff 2.
Ghetto Panda
Really like the horse photo but as you said unfortunately busy around the head but the colours are great.
mrhatmostly
i think that horse would be really cool if there were no trees and it was just the horse silhouette - surely some photoshop freak can fix that up for us......

ps... darkfool apparently has a vinyl fetish unsure.gif
Rainey
This thread is ace. I laughed on more than one occasion.

Millie, the horse silhouette is pretty good but as stated before, the composition needs to be improved so that you can get the horse out in some 'space' without clutter.
`Nova
a nice open paddock would help but finding one if you dont have one can prove to make that difficult.. awesome silhouette none the less
millie
cheers everyone thanx for the comments

so where's this photoshop freak then!!!!
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surely some photoshop freak can fix that up for us......

i dont have photoshop and i did cut and shut the pic a little already but its sooooo tedius and slow with the program on this computer id love to see it after someone else has played around with it

once again thanx for the comments


Rainey
Alice gets some head! tongue.gif

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millie
that is one nice head!!!!!!!!!!!
Rainey
Sorry I couldn't remember if Alice was a horse or a giraffe! I'm such a bad drawer! Hehe.
dark_fool
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ps... darkfool apparently has a vinyl fetish unsure.gif


im a dj mate wink.gif
Nickle
Lol alice's head is looking a little... cubist... but nice work photoshop freak u did a good job.

Haha and honestly this is the funniest photography thread I've seen so far... Trust Harry to arouse all the antagonism wink.gif Nice work mate, U had some very valid points.

But anyway. Millie I think you have potential and you look like you're eager to learn some new stuff. I always enjoy model photography like in your first lot. Keep it up, trust me these people will make you improve a thousand times faster if you give their advice a shot.

Well done wink.gif

P.S. I just realised I didn't contribute a single thing in this post so i thort I'd add in: Don't EVER cut out the feet in a full body photo (like u did in ur second model shot). Same goes with hands in mid shots, and if you ever put someones head in the midde of the frame and waste mass amounts of space on background things that don't add a speck of interest to the photo... I will have yo kill you. I'm a nazi when it comes to that, and straight horizons....

Ok I'm happy now...
Fisher
QUOTE(dark_fool @ Sep 24 2006, 09:26 PM) [snapback]1280282527[/snapback]

im a dj mate wink.gif

ur a knob
millie
thanx nickle i didnt even realise the feet thing untill you pointed it out
i think she had dodgy shoes on at the time but yeah like i said i didnt even realise thanx for pointing it out tho


is this still a photography thread????????
millie
note this pic was taken before i made this thread so the advice that has been given previously on here is irrelevant so dont attack me and say i diidnt listen!!!!!!!

im posting it up cause i like the symmetry
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Ghetto Panda
I like the effect, looks cool.
mrhatmostly
^^reckon that spoon looks awesome

QUOTE(dark_fool @ Sep 24 2006, 11:26 PM) [snapback]1280282527[/snapback]

im a dj mate wink.gif

a dj that dresses in vinyl pants....
it's always the quiet ones hsnono.gif


rainey, can we please see millie as a giraffe now??

Rainey
Is Millie the lady in the first picture? This could be interesting...
millie
no no its not me!!!!!
and me as a giraffe????? hhhmmm that could be interesting!!!
maybe alice as a giraffe!!!

lol
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