sneeky buggers looks quite stock doesnt it

who cares if they r sneeky buggers, ppl shouldnt break the law

church is on sundays mate leave ya preaching till then aight.

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i hate when there in the utes, there were a few at the ute muster. they were bustig everyone

Your a Tool , if they were serious about saving lives they would all be marked as to increase there visual presence , but its not about savings lives is it ????? its all about the MONEY

^^you make no sense.....just plain ignorant and stupid mate sorry but i disagree.. dont you think it will be in the back of everybodies minds "Shit any car could be an umarked copper car!" so i wont break the law its to risky!??? hmm?>????

nope i doubt people think like that just follow a line of traffic and when a marked police car goes past or even a fire of ambulance car which have simular lights every car in the line brake instinctivly and proceede cautiously onwards thats hardly the same reaction that any given current model falcon or commodore envokes ........ a high visability is far more effective than hideing in an unmarked car waiting for the next victim !

they could have used something better then a ford as hyundais are better

i dont care what they drive my car is so slow i dont have to worry about speeding (except in those dam 50 zones ) and i think this argument is crap there their cops they can do what they wont as long as they are there when i need them i dont care

sorry but i concur with sandman on this one
revenue raising SOB's they didnt become public enemy No1 by chance did they?

Working in security, having presence is better than none at all. I think this translates fairly well into the police realm. I've noticed a lack of police presence on the roads since I moved up here.. whether it's genuine or there's just lots of unmarked cars floating around I don't know... it feels like you could get away with a lot if you're inclined to do so. Marked cars act as a better deterrent. To have unmarked cars seems like a money-grab.

They may not have broken the law, It could be just a Licence and rego check or PBT..

so think how many lives they try to save wile some idiots are taking lives

Goodness, they're all trying to save lives. I'm sure unmarked cars nab more people than marked ones, but still - presence is more powerful than no presence.

Down in Newcastle here, there is one particular unmarked Falcon, bright blue with racing stripes on it going around baiting people. My mate was telling me that he was driving along and the said Falcon pulled up behind him, then raced past him, then pulled up beside him, trying to get him to race. Luckily he ignored it, but saw someone less fortunate pulled over later on. Thats entrapment as far as I'm concerned

pffft works both ways some pros some negatives hoon just the way it is i spose.....there are cocks and there are kool cops alot more cocks in force than kool but always hold hope for thoise that are kool cops.

Why would any officer care about raising revenue for the state government when they see NONE of it?? Where is the benefit for them to "revenue raise"?



No such law in QLD or australia, sorry to much movie/tv watching for u........

You have hit the nail on the head keeper.

If I write a ticket it raises only one thing for me and that is a heap of paper work at the end of my shift oh and possibly a day in court. Hmmmm no benefit there that I can see.


Entrapment??????? Where's that come from??? Must be the same place where the forensic team investigate the whole crime including interviewing suspects and prosecuting them in court all in the space of half an hour.


Yep an unmarked police car driving behind him and then, oh my god, beside him too!!! Obviously an attempt to get him to race. The phrase jumping to conclusions springs to mind. ha ha

whats there motive for revenue raising ?????? its called an EFFICENCY BONUS , this is a payment over and above there standard wages for efficent work practices ??????? YOU work it out as for entrapment there is no such defence here in australia but if one unmarked car comes alongside baits you as Tom said then another books you that is travelling further back observing the situation is as far as i can see this is entrapment ..... but thats allowed here in the lucky county but its these dirty tactics that keep policing methods in the gutter ...GET OUT THERE CATCH REAL CRIMINALS

Please show me a government agency, in particular a police service that provides "efficiency bonuses" You would not be able to get past the line up of police officers applying for a spot, as Philthy said, there is no benefit for doing extra work, except that it is the job you are paid a SET rate to do.

The rest of your post is the typical whinge by people who know the rules they play by, then when they get caught breaking the rules, they cry foul.

JUST TO SHUT EVERYBODY UP, i'd say respect them and u'l get it back off em.

Efficiancy Bonus!!!!! Wow where do I sign up for that???



Catch real Criminals? By real criminals I presume you mean murderers, rapists, house breakers? Yep that would be a good idea. A few thousand cops running around bumping into each other all trying to catch the same people while everything else is ignored and society falls to pieces.

geforce are you a cop?

dont know about queensland but i know it is that way in NSW , if anyone actually reads Sunday papers thay did a story on it going back about 18mnths while the comisioner was denying QUOTAS existed did admit however as in most jobs a bonus was in place for efficiency , he also stated that an officer with more active charge sheet would be looked apon more fovourably for promotion as opposed to one that only issued warnings ,. as i said read into it what you will i see it as the more infringements the higher the bonus and the quicker the promotion , they are government sanctioned revenue raisers even if they are to dumb to see it

Damn and I thought all this time i'd spent in the police force I knew how the system worked. Thank god for citizens like you who have a wealth of knowledge because you have read it in a newspaper. I will have to remember next time not to use my experience or the wealth of experience of my colleagues but to consult you sandman as you obviously have a much better unedrstanding than me about how the police force works.




Oh and if anyone ever needs advice on brain surgery I'm your man. I've never done it but I once read an article in a newspaper about it.

Thank You Philthy but i carnt take all the credit , for most of that goes to the media for keeping the public better informed

PHILTHY is a cop: and knows the majority of the law,well i hope so for N.T sake.

sandman: your right they are filling the qouta's and knowing many a copper whoms been told by their superior that they are to fill their qouta for the week and write up tickets(yes this was NSW and not qld)

keeper: keep it real but nothings as black as white as that,i live in reality where police are hated,police are loved and police take our money for petty crap.

maccah: you crack me up

rant over opinions noted so lets all let it be and agree to disagree before we get this locked or closed or even worst warnings.

In the Sunday paper eh??

In relation to Qld police, i will give you a few facts, not speculation/journalism read in a newspaper.

Traffic infringement notices do not equal arrests/charges - and are not looked on in the same light, experience is always going to be rewarded, as it should be, but writing infringement notices is not experience that is going to get you a promotion, anybody can write a traffic infringement

Promotion in the Qld Police is assignment based, in line with Tafe study and hence the more time you have to do this the quicker you are promoted. Therefore arresting more people means more paperwork and thus less time to do the required assignments (i believe this is in line with the other states in Australia, maybe Philthy can eloborate)

Hoon i certainly understand it is not black and white, there are many shades of grey in there. My point was more related to the comment about being caught doing something that is cut and dry.

The police are like any other organisation or company - some of them are good people, some of them are tools, and some of them just don't care.

However blaming them for revenue raising is absurd. The people who are at fault for this are the state government, ie the law makers...

It is the government who give a licence to anyone who can reverse park, that allows them to drive a two tonne solid object at speed in any weather conditions or road conditions. It is the government that makes the police focus on speeding, when statistics prove that it is only the major factor in 2% of accidents, and when overseas experience proves that increasing speed limits actually reduces fatalities, and that harsh speed restrictions have no effect on reducing fatalities (of course, they have a significant effect on the state's annual budgets).

So when people say 'you shouldn't break the law', perhaps we should look at why those laws are being broken, and whether these laws are actually an appropriate way of enforcing public safety.

Moggy,
I like your post. I'm not saying I 100% agree with it all but you do have some very good points and actually make a sensible arguement instead of being blinkered and only seeing the black and white picture.

Nice one. Thanks

Finally - someone who agrees with my point of view.

Why take out all your grievances about being issued with a 'stupid' defect to the police, when they're simply doing their job. It was the politicians who made up the legislation to keep their electorate happy, the police are simply doing their job in enforcing the legislation, regardless of whether they necessarily agree with it.

Besides - it's not the penalty that deters people from commiting any act, it's the chances of being caught. When RBTs were introduced, the spate of drink driving significantly decreased, and has never reached the levels it was at during the 70s. Why? Because we all know now that there's every chance of being pulled over if you drink drive. Hence if you now think there's a chance that every new car could possibly be an unmarked police vehicle, your not going to be a complete reckless dick on the roads (well...for the average person who cares).

ROCK ON
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u drunk mate

now that is sneeky shit

yep, agreed, 100% sneaky.. But we all know thats their style

they after the dosh $$$$ some of you guys make me laugh... if they gonna do stupid stuff, it ain't gonna stop 'em.. they do it again... who cares... seriously not like the cops never do anything wrong.. and when they do, they get a way with it. WHY YOU ASK? wow cause they're cops aren't they !

majority are good cops, but you get the high horsed mother %$TWGERS who are after $ to buy some dough NUTS

different haven't seen em around in utes before starting to hear about them tho

DOG @#$!S

tiss sneaky indeed

ahh cops can suk the wang sumtimes...

imo there is no excuse for revenue raising.... thats what taxes are for... and we get enough of them anyway.

cops should do there job-PROTECT PEOPLE
fair enough if your drifting or doing 3 times the limit.you r just askin for it...
but its the stupid defects where they get specialized equitment to make sure that ur car meets aus standards... if they cant tell that theres something wrong just by lookin at it... then they should just fuck off...
and the only real defects that people should get is when the car isnt actually safe... (i.e. 2mm off the ground... or the broken taillights... or serious and stupid shit) the technical"your car is 5db 2 loud"or those guages aren't legal" are just plain fucking bullshit!!!

but dont get me wrong.. as said above, its not just cops.. its the government that make these stupid fucking laws.. and its not all cops either.. just the cocky asshole prick cops that enjoy harrassing people with cars better than theirs...

its those sorts of cops that should just fuk off and die!

(btw... this forum is a pretty good outlet...)

i been pulled over by coppers in a taxi mock up there fuked these days