'05 Holden Barina Service., Timing belt change at 35,000 kms? |
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 Nov 3 2009, 05:08 PM
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 To thine own self be true.  Group: Users Posts: 374 Off Topic Posts: 487 Joined: 28-April 08 Member No.: 114,561  |
Hi guys,
A family member of mine is due to get her 2005 Holden Barina serviced in a few days and it's done 35,500km. She gets it done at her Holden dealership and they are telling her it is due for a timing belt change. Does this sound right or is it a bit premature and they're ripping her off? I think it's done low mileage for a car of that age and shouldn't need it. Cheers... --------------------  |
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Nov 3 2009, 05:11 PM
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 Dance Fucker Dance   Group: Gold Members Posts: 4,834 Off Topic Posts: 1,639 Joined: 5-August 04 Member No.: 11,372 |
They say to do a t-belt by holden is either every 90000km or every 5 years which ever comes first
the t-belt dose become brittle with age |
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Nov 3 2009, 06:10 PM
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 A wise man once said... screw the wise man wheres my beer Group: Users Posts: 1,051 Off Topic Posts: 812 Joined: 9-June 05 From: Sunshine coast Member No.: 26,121 |
you can normaly get an extra year or so if its going by age, but at the end of the day its somthing you shouldnt skimp on not doing.
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Nov 3 2009, 06:50 PM
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Budding User Group: Users Posts: 940 Off Topic Posts: 33 Joined: 22-May 09 From: logan Member No.: 170,064 |
QUOTE (004dam @ Nov 3 2009, 06:10 PM)  you can normaly get an extra year or so if its going by age, but at the end of the day its somthing you shouldnt skimp on not doing. SAME AS OLD MATE !! |
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Nov 3 2009, 06:53 PM
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Forza Lo Quadrifoglio Group: Users Posts: 1,038 Off Topic Posts: 147 Joined: 4-November 07 From: South Australia. Heaps Good. Member No.: 86,090 |
QUOTE (ADZcalais @ Nov 3 2009, 06:20 PM) SAME AS OLD MATE !! lol wut? yo ushould go along with it if holden tell you to. can't be thaaat expensive, can it?? they will need replacing one in every car's life tho. however 35kks is quite low :S -------------------- "Signature your on it put, backwards this read to enough dumb were you if." Politics > Sense QUOTE (autech_sfifteen) QUOTE (streetholden) shoulda said that your a keyboard worrier and they would have come seen you. definition of pwnage 1981 Alfa Romeo Alfetta Sedan 2.0. 120kwatfw |
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Nov 3 2009, 06:57 PM
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 Standard User Group: Users Posts: 139 Off Topic Posts: 23 Joined: 2-December 08 From: Brisbane Member No.: 150,703 |
Maybe check the cars service/log book, it often says what needs to be done and when.
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Nov 3 2009, 08:15 PM
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Budding User Group: Users Posts: 940 Off Topic Posts: 33 Joined: 22-May 09 From: logan Member No.: 170,064 |
QUOTE (EUniqe @ Nov 3 2009, 06:53 PM) lol wut? yo ushould go along with it if holden tell you to. can't be thaaat expensive, can it?? they will need replacing one in every car's life tho. however 35kks is quite low :S lol |
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Nov 3 2009, 08:28 PM
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 Regular User Group: Users Posts: 1,420 Off Topic Posts: 7 Joined: 8-June 07 Member No.: 71,007 |
Personally that seems like a really short distance and time to be replacing a timing belt. If you're not bound by warranty, then I'd be waiting a while before getting it done. Most belts have at least 70k life, some significantly more than that. 35k seems quite low.
For Holden to do it, I'd be guessing it's around a grand, so not a small amount. |
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Nov 4 2009, 12:37 AM
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To thine own self be true. Group: Users Posts: 374 Off Topic Posts: 487 Joined: 28-April 08 Member No.: 114,561 |
Cheers guys. The one in my Rexy gets changed every 50,000km so I was thinking it was a rort they were trying to pull on her.
The car has been a drama for her, the paint job was of very low quality and has deteriorated badly despite having that Minc protection, getting it fixed through warranty wasn't easy. I'm going to try and convince her to go through another workshop for her servicing, she is just worried that it would affect her warranty. -------------------- |
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Nov 4 2009, 06:35 AM
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 Budding User Group: Users Posts: 1,181 Off Topic Posts: 2 Joined: 6-August 05 From: Australia Member No.: 29,525 |
if the 05 barina is anything like the astras and vectras they're due at 60 000 or every 5 years like others have said. regardless of the km's its not wise to opt out of a timing belt. make sure you get the full kit done as well (seals,tensioners,idlers) as these can fail and cause leaks, or engine damage. try getting a couple of quotes as dealerships can be quite expensive for that kind of work.
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Nov 4 2009, 08:48 AM
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 I can read..! And spell..! Rookiepedia Group: Moderators Posts: 11,651 Off Topic Posts: 4,584 Joined: 31-January 06 From: Brisvegas/Ipsvegas? Member No.: 41,115 |
QUOTE (EUniqe @ Nov 3 2009, 06:53 PM) yo ushould go along with it if holden tell you to. can't be thaaat expensive, can it?? they will need replacing one in every car's life tho. however 35kks is quite low :S Enjoy ownership of the Alfetta for as long as you can, it'll mean you won't find out servicing costs of a newer car. Timing belt service will be in the vicinity of $800+. QUOTE (HSVLSL @ Nov 4 2009, 06:35 AM) if the 05 barina is anything like the astras and vectras they're due at 60 000 or every 5 years like others have said. I was thinking the same things, and again if they're anything like the Astras, I'd be doing it much sooner than later. Plenty of horror stories of persons who've broken belts and subsequently engines. Especially when Holden had the change listed for 120,000km. ROCK ON R~R -------------------- Toubl tieping? speeling of consurn? Grama a issshu? punkchu wha? 1300 6555 06! Idiots who need to call the hotline - low.ryder, evlbt1, ben IS200, wooley (welcome back!), Astra Boi, samrox58, winchymate Doug the Banstick. Hitting since '95. '06/'07/'08 Most Helpful Tech Member  |
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Nov 4 2009, 09:46 AM
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 Standard User Group: Users Posts: 70 Off Topic Posts: 53 Joined: 11-June 07 From: South east QLD Member No.: 71,243 |
Wow that's expensive, just to change a timing belt. But as others have said its not something you want to skimp on.
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Nov 4 2009, 09:55 AM
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Standard User Group: Users Posts: 120 Off Topic Posts: 40 Joined: 11-August 08 Member No.: 132,735 |
never skim on timing belts!
They are time limited too as mentioned 5 years. alot of people suggest a water pump change on FWD cars due to the fact you need to remove the timing belt to change a water pump its called preventative maint. thou i never did and got 280,000 out of the one in my mirage change the crank and cam seals to they only cost $30ish and same reason as above. |
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Nov 4 2009, 10:12 AM
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 Far too poor Group: Users Posts: 530 Off Topic Posts: 407 Joined: 25-January 09 From: Holland Park Member No.: 157,033 |
I know citroens are every 4 years or 100k.
Time or mileage basis, they can get stress cracks being rubber. Id do it to be on the safe side. -------------------- Current cars:
RB25 R32 4 Door 79 Valiant QUOTE (bookie84 @ Jun 21 2009, 01:01 PM) southern cross stickers add 10kw QUOTE (Micko @ Oct 1 2009, 12:29 PM) Why would you sig yourself? |
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Nov 4 2009, 10:55 AM
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Dance Fucker Dance Group: Gold Members Posts: 4,834 Off Topic Posts: 1,639 Joined: 5-August 04 Member No.: 11,372 |
Being a barina/Vauxal Id put money that the water pump is leaking
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Nov 4 2009, 06:01 PM
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Budding User Group: Users Posts: 1,181 Off Topic Posts: 2 Joined: 6-August 05 From: Australia Member No.: 29,525 |
QUOTE (MaccaColt @ Nov 4 2009, 09:55 AM) never skim on timing belts! They are time limited too as mentioned 5 years. alot of people suggest a water pump change on FWD cars due to the fact you need to remove the timing belt to change a water pump its called preventative maint. thou i never did and got 280,000 out of the one in my mirage change the crank and cam seals to they only cost $30ish and same reason as above. mmmm but a stitch in time saves 9.... some people will be lucky and get 300k out of a water pump. i've seen new cars with water pumps weeping... and if you pay to get a timing belt kit done... then you may as well spend the extra hundred or so and get the water pump done at the same time.... not worth paying to get everything stripped back off again to get to the pump later. lol we had a mitsubishi express van come in once with over 400k on the clock... the timing belt looked to be original, was splitting and frayed in places and some teeth looked to be barely holding on but the old girl was still running  (i am not saying to leave yours 400k though. lol just simply saying that some people will be lucky. euro holdens are not lucky)
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Nov 4 2009, 07:08 PM
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Far too poor Group: Users Posts: 530 Off Topic Posts: 407 Joined: 25-January 09 From: Holland Park Member No.: 157,033 |
QUOTE (HSVLSL @ Nov 4 2009, 06:01 PM) mmmm but a stitch in time saves 9.... some people will be lucky and get 300k out of a water pump. i've seen new cars with water pumps weeping... and if you pay to get a timing belt kit done... then you may as well spend the extra hundred or so and get the water pump done at the same time.... not worth paying to get everything stripped back off again to get to the pump later. lol we had a mitsubishi express van come in once with over 400k on the clock... the timing belt looked to be original, was splitting and frayed in places and some teeth looked to be barely holding on but the old girl was still running (i am not saying to leave yours 400k though. lol just simply saying that some people will be lucky. euro holdens are not lucky)This. We replace waterpumps almost every time we do a timing belt, some of those cars havent even hit 50,000 yet :| -------------------- Current cars:
RB25 R32 4 Door 79 Valiant QUOTE (bookie84 @ Jun 21 2009, 01:01 PM) southern cross stickers add 10kw QUOTE (Micko @ Oct 1 2009, 12:29 PM) Why would you sig yourself? |
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Nov 4 2009, 07:17 PM
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Regular User Group: Users Posts: 1,420 Off Topic Posts: 7 Joined: 8-June 07 Member No.: 71,007 |
Oh how I love my timing chain and non-interference engine right about now. None of this 30k bullshit, lasts over 100 without any stressing.
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Nov 4 2009, 07:23 PM
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 one double-three seven Group: Users Posts: 1,899 Off Topic Posts: 2,623 Joined: 26-October 05 From: 12a, Gilmer Dr, Engine bay Member No.: 34,794 |
timing gears is where its at
 anyhow not only breaking, there is a possability they stretch after time which will caus it to slip teeth in bad cases -------------------- 12a warrior
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