Steriods, Whos Used Them Or Knows About Them, Serious ppl please Options

[B Unit]

Wern't you contemplating writing up a little doc about steriods at one point? I was actually hoping you would go a head with it.


The doctors were contemplating giving him a liver transplant at one stage. I don't get a whole lot of information out of him, he got pretty serious roid rage and at point time threw his ex around the kitchen (as in picked her up and threw her) and assaulted the 3 police officers that rocked up to the house to arrest him.
well, the fact that he's a manic depressant wouldn't of helped either.

I probably still will at some stage, just busy at the moment so not on here much. The biggest problem with apparent roid rage is that it really is just an exageration of your normal personality, maybe shorten your fuse a bit. So angry people just become angrier, and unfortunately these are the types that usually take them. Being a manic depressant would have thrown his whole system even further out.

Funny to see someone list the old shock the central nervous system trick to get prescription drugs, as long as you find the right doctor. This is one of the reasons I don't use any pre-workout mixes that are just stacked with caffeine, they can actually be kinda counter productive to some people.

[truffles]

What's the gist?

It is a documentary that is a very similar style to say Fahrenheit 911 and Bowling for Columbine (they all share the same producers) Bigger, Stronger, Faster is centered around the use of performance enhancing drugs in contemporary society, both in sport and general life. A large portion of the documentary is focused on writer and director Chris Bell and his family, in which he is a middle of three brothers and both the of them use steroids. The film contains a variety of interviews from parties that hold contradicting views on performance enhancers (Medical professionals, parents, professional, recreational users and even the "Genetic Freak" Greg Valantino) and offers a large insight into all types of performance enhancers, as well as debunking various myths within the fitness industry.

Unfortunately for such an informative film, it received a theatrical release in the US and none in Australia. I was lucky enough to receive a copy a while ago, but to my knowledge it screens on the movie greats channel on Foxtel. If you have access to it I'd definitely recommend watching it, well worth two hours of your time.


Here's the trailer: http://www.biggerstrongerfastermovie.com/


As outline above by Bunit (and pointed out in Bigger, Stronger, Faster) roidrage is statistically very rare and only occurs in a marginal percentage of steroid users (about 5%) and rather than inducing rage, it just tends to magnify personal traits. So if you're normally quick to anger, this will be become more apparent whilst using anabolic steroids. Most of the general public is extremely short sighted and ignorant when it comes to performance enhancers as they tend to perpetuate the bullshit that is spoonfed to them by jounalistic media. The most common misconception which exemplifies this is "your penis will shrink" when in reality the correct side affect is testicular atrophy (shrinking of the balls) I don't use anabolic steroids but the ignorance of some people shits me up the wall. /rant

This post has been edited by truffles: Oct 23 2009, 09:05 AM

[GreekWarrior]

yeah good doco that

[PyrotiX]

I remember watching a documentary on a famous wrestler who used Roids. He became so addicted to it.. but over time it slowly began to take it's toll on his body.

Long story short, he now has permanent liver damage and has roid rage issues.

[the_random_hero]

I remember watching a documentary on a famous wrestler who used Roids. He became so addicted to it.. but over time it slowly began to take it's toll on his body.

Long story short, he now has permanent liver damage and has roid rage issues.

I've seen it too, good documentary that.

[fingerbanger]

The trick is to "ramp up" your intake...Start on small dosage and increase week by week...say 0.5ml start and work from there. Your body produces about (roughly here) 230ml per week naturally(i've been told). as soon as you put a produced testosterone into your sysytem, the body automatically shuts natural test down...Ropel is my flavour of the month and i haven't noticed any side affects as yet (other than usual fluid retention) but that can be controlled by cardio if your diet is good...The only downside is when you come off a cycle, your test levels drop and you become a bit of an emotional bitch for a couple of weeks until the balls start producing naturally again. I've found that a product called "Testostagrow" is a nice buffer from stop of intake till body produces naturally again. This is just my story and i'm sure there's a few that have there own out there.....As with anything these days.."Buyer Beware..Results may vary"

[Jamesyboi]

Anybody interested about any of it should watch the doco Bigger, Faster, Stronger. Such a good documentary about it all..

Never seen that, sounds like a good documentary though.

The Man Whose Arm Exploded, is a good documentary.

I was surprised how many policemen were selling steroids, back in my gym days.

Even in center parking on a busy main street, selling steroids in plain sight for all to see.

[B Unit]

The trick is to "ramp up" your intake...Start on small dosage and increase week by week...say 0.5ml start and work from there. Your body produces about (roughly here) 230ml per week naturally(i've been told). as soon as you put a produced testosterone into your sysytem, the body automatically shuts natural test down...Ropel is my flavour of the month and i haven't noticed any side affects as yet (other than usual fluid retention) but that can be controlled by cardio if your diet is good...The only downside is when you come off a cycle, your test levels drop and you become a bit of an emotional bitch for a couple of weeks until the balls start producing naturally again. I've found that a product called "Testostagrow" is a nice buffer from stop of intake till body produces naturally again. This is just my story and i'm sure there's a few that have there own out there.....As with anything these days.."Buyer Beware..Results may vary"

Ropel is one of the cheapest ones on the market, very low quality. Are you buying bladders or are they putting it into bottles for you and making massive profits for themselves? The reason I ask this, is there is a risk of infection by doing this. None of it is done in a controlled environment. I'm not here to lecture you about steroid use, I believe each to their own, but I want to see people doing it safely. And yes I do know of people personally who have had infections in muscle tissue due to bad handling and injection practices. This is not something that you want. Make sure you use clean sterile needles and syringes, and both are placed in sharps containers when finished. You can get all of this for free through the needle exchange program setup by Qld Health. They will give you varying sizes of syringes, needles, sharps containers, alcohol wipes, and even advise you how to inject yourself properly and safely. I highly recommend you going and having a chat with them. They are called Biala Management Centre, 270 Roma Street, Brisbane 4000, 07 3837 5989 (Business); 1800 177 833 (QLD only), 24 Hours 7 Days. Ironically enough, they are next door to the Police Station, but do not be alarmed by this. It is a free service to help ensure the proper health of needle drug users, not to try and find out who they are and arrest them.

You are partially correct, as you introduce an artificial test into the body, your bodies natural production starts to slow. The other effect is that your body can start to produce more estrogen, as it likes to keep a balance between the 2. Are you using any estrogen blockers? You will actually see better results, as well as have less risk of testicular shrinkage or gyno. Very important to keep up the anti-estrogen ever after you finish your cycle. There are some legal ones on the market as well as the usual Nolvadex etc on the black market. This will also help with the emotional come down. I even know guys who go and get anti-depressants to help with the come downs, bit extreme, but it's essentially what they are good for. You are actually putting your mind into the beginning stages of severe depression.

Make sure you are drinking plenty of green tea and taking any herbal dieuretics if the water retention is bad. Have you advised your GP of your actions? I strongly advise this. After he gives you a lecture about the possible damages you could be doing to your body if you are unlucky, he will then be able to monitor your health via checkups and blood tests. The other thing I advise doing is educating yourself better as to what exactly you are putting into your body, not just talking to other dudes at the gym who are on the gear. Read medical journals and publications by doctors and professors, not idle chit chat on bodybuilding forums.

Stay away from other toxins, alcohol, drugs, etc. Get plenty of good quality food into you, lots of rest, some good antioxidants, and some regular sunshine (vitamin D). Actually that's good advice for general living haha.

I was surprised how many policemen were selling steroids, back in my gym days.

Even in center parking on a busy main street, selling steroids in plain sight for all to see.

Very true, steroid use is and always has been widespread amongs the force.

[Type R]

Didnt realise steriods were so damaging, not that ive used em

[clutch-monkey]

Asking mainly cuz, ill be getting perscribed some for my shoulder


I really dont care if you have used illegal animal ones, if you know anything about them

Send me a pm, please, got some questions and other stuff, dont be scared thanks

hey you should try these steroids
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_steroid

i reccomend Oestradiol in your case
trust me

[fingerbanger]

Thanks for the tips B unit...Iam drawing straight from a bladder with syringes obtained from Roma street..lol..It is a bit daunting rolling up there with cops looking at you funny. I follow a good diet and have been for 12 months or more. I get plenty of sun etc etc..The only thing i haven't done is start on the estro blocker but hearing this i will straight away.

[teezn_180sx]

hows ur gains???? Id never take anything like this.... Im very lucky to be naturally gifted when it comes to physical ability, sport and muscle growth BUT i am curious to know wat sort of gains your experiancing and if ur managing ur growth proportionally?? ie.... do u have good symetry??

cheers

[Imp]

hows ur gains???? Id never take anything like this.... Im very lucky to be naturally gifted when it comes to physical ability, sport and muscle growth BUT i am curious to know wat sort of gains your experiancing and if ur managing ur growth proportionally?? ie.... do u have good symetry??

cheers

I'm also wondering this

[dBah]

Ive got a few mates that have done cycles, and they have put on some defined size. it does help but be prepared to do alot of work.

[fingerbanger]

My size has increased as has strength...Shoulders have a more defined peak now and biceps and triceps are better shaped. My chest has a bit more size on it, although i always had a decent chest anyway..Lats are starting to come through more defined too..Cardio and diet will take the excess fluid and fat away along with b units recomendations...so far so good for me but my cycle wont finish until just before xmas..to be continued.

[teezn_180sx]

No probs..... perhaps a piccy when ur done and have cut down a bit? before and afters are always a guddy. If u can resist the chrissie puddings etc :-)

[Imp]

My size has increased as has strength...Shoulders have a more defined peak now and biceps and triceps are better shaped. My chest has a bit more size on it, although i always had a decent chest anyway..Lats are starting to come through more defined too..Cardio and diet will take the excess fluid and fat away along with b units recomendations...so far so good for me but my cycle wont finish until just before xmas..to be continued.

i've heard its pretty expensive to do cycles? is that right?

[the_random_hero]

i've heard its pretty expensive to do cycles? is that right?

Approx. $700 a cycle, depending on where you get your juice from.

[Imp]

Approx. $700 a cycle, depending on where you get your juice from.

Yeah thats the price I got told, how long is a cycle for though?

[Chris!!]

Anyone know much about the use of HGH?

Edit: Imp love that sig ahahaha

This post has been edited by Chris!!: Nov 13 2009, 07:08 PM

[B Unit]

Anyone know much about the use of HGH?

Yes and there is even more of a risk associated with buying it that you will be getting either fake stuff or damaged stock. HGH is very fragile, you shouldn't even shake the bottle or expose to direct sunlight. People will try and charge an arm and a leg for something that is either damaged or has gone off.

I have an older friend who tried some a few years ago, he said that it will fix everything except for a broken marriage. Very good for injuries, as it makes everything bigger and stronger, but this is also it's downfall. It makes all cells grow, muscles, tendons, cancerous cells. If you have underlying cancer cells, or could be predispositioned to get cancer later in life, you can accelerate the process by taking HGH if unlucky. I am talking fairly big doses though over a period of time, but like everything, the more you expose yourself to it, the more risk you have. If you were to have very small controlled amounts as prescribed by one of these 'well being' centres, it's basically beneficial for you, especially older people. Will strip body fat off you like nothing else though.

But as stated earlier, it has to be treated in a careful manner to ensure it's lifespan, so when you are forking out alot of money to some drug dealer with no guarantees, you would be disappointed when you don't get the results you expected. There are some decent quality natural supplements on the market these days, they are definately improving over the years, but sadly this country still blocks most of the best steroid alternatives from coming into the country. I do recall reading several years ago that Aust is also one of the biggest manufacturers of veterinary grade steroids in the world.